The Mi10 Ultra comes with a 120W charger. It's a split battery design, so really you can half whatever number gets thrown out when thinking about what damage it's doing. https://www.androidauthority.com/120w-charging-tes... shows the Mi10 Ultra really is doing about 80W charging(40W per battery). I'm a little let down with the Mi11 after the Mi10 Ultra. I suppose we're getting a Mi11 Pro early Feb and then we'll see if they whip out an Ultra model too.
55w is nothing. We charge Li-Po batteries for our radio control gizmos at 300-watts (25C=25x their watthour capacity) and they discharge at 50C (some can do more) or 600-watts. You can literally jumpstart a car off a tiny Li-Po without it breaking a sweat. Battery technology progress is totally underrated, the only roadblock is density and to some degree still unacceptable charge times when talking about massive watthour packs (which solid state batteries will correct)
I agree, not great for battery life. My bedside and car chargers are 0.5 amp on purpose.
The battery life in my old s8 took a nose dive after the perfect storm of repeadidly using it with fast charger while running google maps nav while sitting in the sun in my car.
I will use fast charge while travelling away from home but I just don't need it day to day.
These kinds of idiots that complain in anything they don't understand... Go buy your iPhone with 20watts ... Once upon a time people also complained that 20 watts charging is "crazy amount of power to pump in a battery"
So what? If they remove the charger without lowering the price, it equates to a price bump. You must be the type that buys the 3-packs of "1 for $3, 3 for $10" products at the supermarket.
I just noticed. This is much more sensible than Apple's, but still they could just lower the price of the "eco version" a little compared to the "standard version" to show that they've removed the additional cost associated with the charger. Right now it's more like a promotion of buying a phone without a charger with the option of getting an additional charger for free, and the promotion may not run forever.
Never mind the missing specs of the camera modules; no rating for water and dust resistance for a supposed flagship phone with no microSD card slot, apparently no headphone jack and a likely high price tag is a poor value proposition. Xiaomi phones used to be really good value, but they apparently have learned from Apple and Samsung, and probably P.T. Barnum ("There's a sucker borne every minute").
Wow, you've come late to the party. There was a time when OnePlus was the value proposition, but that disappeared alongside the headphone jack and their loyalty to their fanbase of "power users"a few years ago.
Not so, at least not for their less expensive models in the past. My Mi Max 2 had both (microSD slot and a 3.5 mm jack). Great phone for the money in its time.
Then again, this is a $611 flagship (in China, at least). I'd gladly give up IP rating, SD slot, 3.5mm jack etc considering that the Samsung equivalent is going to be $800 minimum, probably even more.
LG phones get huge discounts for Flagship products, from V20 series to G8X I've been seeing them at 400-500USD pricing on B&H. This useless chinese garbage which doesn't have band support and idiotic HW like no jack, no sd card slot is a paperweight to shove in.
Apple ruined the world wide market single handedly. They gouged their garbage so high that the leading Samsung started to ape then and fire that Dj Koh followed by removal of features like 3.5mm jacks in Note 10 series and reducing the display etc.
Now if we look, the Chinese cheap garbage flooded the market with cheap prices and the companies like Sony and LG couldn't see their brands faded as worse than Chinese in market pricing they kept their price and took a massive hit in the market penetration which caused them to fail. And now what we have is a complete Apple copycat bullshit in this industry. From OS to the HW, OS ? Scoped Storage is one, then 32bit axe is coming to Playstore and new Android soon & look at Win10 complete garbage focused on touch only and removing Win32. HW we know - Notches, no 3.5mm jacks, no chargers, price gouge, ugly designs.
This industry is doomed, only way to set it right is in the hands of consumer but unfortunately they are braindead and just focused on consuming new HW every damned year, it will only get worse.
I thought the continued complaints about Scoped Storage were bad enough for holding onto an irrelevant grudge, but lo and behold you're still peddling the Windows 10 "touch first / no win32" nonsense 🤣 You really sold your argument by saying that consumers need to take control and then condemning them all as "braindead".
Removal of the 3.5mm jack is a reasonable complaint, everything else here is bilge.
The high power (55W) charging may be good for short charging times - however it will not be good for the life expectancy of the battery. (Even a cheap 1A (5W) USB charger can fully recharge a phone overnight - and it would be nothing like as damaging to the battery.)
If the phone is used at full brightness (eg watching a video) how long will the battery last - and how hot will the phone become? Also how long will it be before panel degradation becomes visible if the phone is used at full brightness?
Here comes the battery engineer... do you know the chemistry of this exact battery? Do you know its maximum charge current? Maybe it's made up of 2 cells so you're really charging each cell at only 22.5w.
Didn't matter if it is 20 cells. If it's packed into the same volume the total surface area of the electrodes will be about the same (actually less as you increase the battery count in the same volume as there is outer packaging hitting the available electrode volume). The higher the current (and heat) the more the reduction in battery lifetime charge cycles.
Again until you know the specification of the actual cell what you're saying is too generic. Lipo cell's can charge at very high currents as can some 18650. Go look up some data sheets for these batteries and you'll see every single one varies, the more $$$ the better the charge/discharge current it can take.
This BS double cell or single cell is nothing when you see the basic chemistry, the faster the charge rate which is C, and the higher the voltage and current. The battery depletes faster. Period.
Any battery will lose it's total capacity while shoving fast chargers over and over rather than a 30-80% cycle. And on top this is an irreversible process.
I see my phone discharge fast when used with a fast charger QC2.0, vs the fast charge to 60% from 25% and then charge with USB 3.0 from 60-80%. I literally saw this with my personal use case.
Fast charging is only useful for very low % of the charge left to the medium. You don't require battery engineering bs, just a simple google will explain how things work.
That's generally how fast chargers work, they charge fast until 50-60% and then taper down, the last 10% is usually pretty slow. One could argue if it could taper earlier and charge the last 40% at around 5W though.
The Mi10 Ultra, when charging at 80W was 43.8C. 21 minutes from 0 to 100%. If you haven't kept up on battery tech, an awful lot has changed in a short period of time. That's not to say they used 10 Ultra tech in the Mi 11, but you'd at least think they learned a thing or two. We'll have to wait for reviews.
There is no doubt that using fast charging will be detrimental to the battery. The extent of the decline in longevity is the question and reviews will not tell you a thing about it. We will never know the full extent of the impact as no one is going to buy people a load of phones and do a study. The manufacturer will likely know as the battery / charging system will be validated. If theirs was anything special, you can guarantee that they would be bragging about it.
Myself, I have a standard, slow USB wireless charger which runs at around 1A and use that overnight for routine charging. Next to it lies the cable for the fast charger. I use that for top ups in a hurry.
Given there is no doubt that these rapid chargers will increase the rate of degradation compared to a "slow" charger (the question is by how much), I much prefer the approach of Asus who alert you to the effects in the charge settings.
https://sparrowsnews.com/2020/08/12/is-xiaomi-mi-1... Here's a read up on what Xiaomi did with their previous phone. They claim 800 cycles and still 90% effective capacity(compared to 60% after 400 cycles on conventional). That's with the 120W charging.
Didn't OPPO claim the same thing but when Andrei asked for the methodology (to reproduce it and prove it) they didn't respond? I think there's a tweet of him about it.
Yeah, curved screens are just not useful and much harder for a case to protect without impacting usage. Plus the occasional pop-up with an x at the far edge of the screen that is tough to close (tapatalk, etc.)
Anyway, between my desire for a flat screen, microsd, and 3.5 jack, I guess I won't be buying anymore "flagships".
Not that I'm in the market for this phone, but I absolutely do not care in the slightest in any way shape or form that the radius of curvature of the corners of the display is slightly different than the radius of curvature of the body of the phone. I suspect that I am in the 99.9% majority on this one.
Yeah, this trend really confuses me. They shrank bezels for more screen (yay), then put in the notch for even more screen but with less effective area (wut), and now we have no notch but the camera is even lower than it would be in a notch for *even less effective area* (wtf).
The chinese languange version of Xiaomi's website already shows the Mi 11 and its specs. There it does indeed say that the GPU's frequency can "reach up to 840 MHz" (whatever that means), the main 108 MP camera has a "1/1.33″" sensor with "support for 4:1 1.6μm large pixels", the front camera is "20 MP", storage is "UFS 3.1" and it supports "Bluetooth 5.2".
"The new Mi 11 also features either 8GB or 12GB of the new LPDDR5 memory at its full 3200MHz speed (6400MT/s), and comes in either 128GB or 256GB storage variants, although we’re missing details on the specifications of the modules used here."
NO UNDER SCREEN FRONT FACING CAMERA WITH FACE ID!!!! LOL That screen deserves better; AMOLED, QHD, 120Hz Refresh Rate, 480Hz Touch Input Refresh Rate, 1500 Nits of Peak Brightness and you put a camera hole punch....that is just criminal in a 2021 flagship.
Apple is essentially a "Chinese Company" as well that is forced to 'comply' to the Chinese Governments demands for "data access" as well. Besides: why in the world would you even worry about any other foreign government or entities "access" to "your data" when all online electronic devices are mainlined into the NSA's and most of the domestic other 'intelligence' cosa nostra's data collection servers by default?
Seriously! I would trust the "Chinese Government" getting ahold of any of my digital data a million times more than I would the hyper-voracious "5-Eyes" clowns that are hovering up almost everyone alive's (even the Chinese Government's) data for their own potentially nefarious current and future usage (control). Also, probably one of the largest foreign entities that are actually "infecting" anyone's phones and computers are the Israeli's (think...download alley..etc).
Looks like Samsung's 5nm is pants. Notebookcheck reported SD888 draws more power and produces more heat thus negating any benefits from X1 and A78, which btw offers just 7% IPC improvement over A77 at the same clock speeds. Perhaps this is why Huawei went with a high clock A77 rather than pushing for A78 or X1. Overall, the Kirin 9000 and Exynos 1080 might turn out to be better general use chips than SD888 and people shouldn't upgrade their SD865s this year. We had the same situation with SD845 and 821 back in the day where the upgrade over the previous gen was not worth it.
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shabby - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
You forgot to mention the new 0 watt included charger...s.yu - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Oh yeah, blame Apple for that too.IntoxicatedPuma - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
At least Xiaomi offers a 55w charger bundle with the Mi 11 for only $15 moreingwe - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
A 55W charger for a phone? That feels like a crazy amount of power to pump into a battery.IntoxicatedPuma - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Oppo showed off a 125W phone charger last year, they already have 65W chargers for some of their phones.Ithaqua - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Depends. If's it to charge the phone faster then go for it.If USB-C can do 100w then that should be the standard, in my opinion. Then we can get rid of these "?"w no name / Chinese chargers.
NXTwoThou - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
The Mi10 Ultra comes with a 120W charger. It's a split battery design, so really you can half whatever number gets thrown out when thinking about what damage it's doing. https://www.androidauthority.com/120w-charging-tes... shows the Mi10 Ultra really is doing about 80W charging(40W per battery). I'm a little let down with the Mi11 after the Mi10 Ultra. I suppose we're getting a Mi11 Pro early Feb and then we'll see if they whip out an Ultra model too.Samus - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
55w is nothing. We charge Li-Po batteries for our radio control gizmos at 300-watts (25C=25x their watthour capacity) and they discharge at 50C (some can do more) or 600-watts. You can literally jumpstart a car off a tiny Li-Po without it breaking a sweat. Battery technology progress is totally underrated, the only roadblock is density and to some degree still unacceptable charge times when talking about massive watthour packs (which solid state batteries will correct)0iron - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
When you're expecting solid state battery will mass produce?shabby - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
That's crazy, you need to slow charge at 5w otherwise you'll ruin your battery.../s
nemi2 - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
I agree, not great for battery life. My bedside and car chargers are 0.5 amp on purpose.The battery life in my old s8 took a nose dive after the perfect storm of repeadidly using it with fast charger while running google maps nav while sitting in the sun in my car.
I will use fast charge while travelling away from home but I just don't need it day to day.
CarryBeat - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
These kinds of idiots that complain in anything they don't understand... Go buy your iPhone with 20watts ... Once upon a time people also complained that 20 watts charging is "crazy amount of power to pump in a battery"dotjaz - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
try $0Andrei Frumusanu - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
You can request the charger free or charge with the order of the phone. It's a much more sensible approach.imaskar - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
So what? I have too many chargers already.s.yu - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
So what? If they remove the charger without lowering the price, it equates to a price bump.You must be the type that buys the 3-packs of "1 for $3, 3 for $10" products at the supermarket.
CarryBeat - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
You can include it in the package for $0.00s.yu - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
I just noticed. This is much more sensible than Apple's, but still they could just lower the price of the "eco version" a little compared to the "standard version" to show that they've removed the additional cost associated with the charger. Right now it's more like a promotion of buying a phone without a charger with the option of getting an additional charger for free, and the promotion may not run forever.NXTwoThou - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
You have too many 55W chargers?CarryBeat - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
The charger is available for free upon request (you can include it in package order for $0.00s.yu - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
The bold font doesn't seem to serve any purpose as it doesn't fit any particular pattern.skavi - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
It’s all the specifications that are particularly notable/interesting according to the author.s.yu - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
So LPDDR5 5500 to 6400 isn't interesting, but 6.67" to 6/81" is, while 2340 x 1080 to 3200 x 1440 isn't, and a slight aperture shrink is...eastcoast_pete - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Never mind the missing specs of the camera modules; no rating for water and dust resistance for a supposed flagship phone with no microSD card slot, apparently no headphone jack and a likely high price tag is a poor value proposition. Xiaomi phones used to be really good value, but they apparently have learned from Apple and Samsung, and probably P.T. Barnum ("There's a sucker borne every minute").ads295 - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
They've learnt much more from OnePlus, then. These two were always expensives.yu - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Wow, you've come late to the party. There was a time when OnePlus was the value proposition, but that disappeared alongside the headphone jack and their loyalty to their fanbase of "power users"a few years ago.DaveLT - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Xiaomi has had no SD card slot since the very first Mi product.3.5mm was later deleted after apple did and in fairness so did Samsung
eastcoast_pete - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Not so, at least not for their less expensive models in the past. My Mi Max 2 had both (microSD slot and a 3.5 mm jack). Great phone for the money in its time.s.yu - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
I believe the last value flagship from Xiaomi with a headphone jack would be the K30Pro.CarryBeat - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
My Mi9T pro has one, and all of their redmi smartphones has oneRetycint - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Then again, this is a $611 flagship (in China, at least). I'd gladly give up IP rating, SD slot, 3.5mm jack etc considering that the Samsung equivalent is going to be $800 minimum, probably even more.imaskar - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
What $611 the table shows 800.Samus - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
This is a steal for $611. That's insane. We will be lucky to get this for under $800 in the West.Silver5urfer - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
LG phones get huge discounts for Flagship products, from V20 series to G8X I've been seeing them at 400-500USD pricing on B&H. This useless chinese garbage which doesn't have band support and idiotic HW like no jack, no sd card slot is a paperweight to shove in.Apple ruined the world wide market single handedly. They gouged their garbage so high that the leading Samsung started to ape then and fire that Dj Koh followed by removal of features like 3.5mm jacks in Note 10 series and reducing the display etc.
Now if we look, the Chinese cheap garbage flooded the market with cheap prices and the companies like Sony and LG couldn't see their brands faded as worse than Chinese in market pricing they kept their price and took a massive hit in the market penetration which caused them to fail. And now what we have is a complete Apple copycat bullshit in this industry. From OS to the HW, OS ? Scoped Storage is one, then 32bit axe is coming to Playstore and new Android soon & look at Win10 complete garbage focused on touch only and removing Win32. HW we know - Notches, no 3.5mm jacks, no chargers, price gouge, ugly designs.
This industry is doomed, only way to set it right is in the hands of consumer but unfortunately they are braindead and just focused on consuming new HW every damned year, it will only get worse.
Spunjji - Monday, January 4, 2021 - link
I thought the continued complaints about Scoped Storage were bad enough for holding onto an irrelevant grudge, but lo and behold you're still peddling the Windows 10 "touch first / no win32" nonsense 🤣 You really sold your argument by saying that consumers need to take control and then condemning them all as "braindead".Removal of the 3.5mm jack is a reasonable complaint, everything else here is bilge.
Rookierookie - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Yeah, it's unfortunate that this is the only phone in their lineup and they've stopped selling phones under 400 USD.NXTwoThou - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
I wonder how long before they spit out a Mi 11 Ultra. I had figured the new battery tech was going to carry over to the Mi 11.0iron - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
What kind of battery tech?NXTwoThou - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
https://sparrowsnews.com/2020/08/12/is-xiaomi-mi-1...jabber - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
It's just another phone. Looks fine.Duncan Macdonald - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
The high power (55W) charging may be good for short charging times - however it will not be good for the life expectancy of the battery. (Even a cheap 1A (5W) USB charger can fully recharge a phone overnight - and it would be nothing like as damaging to the battery.)If the phone is used at full brightness (eg watching a video) how long will the battery last - and how hot will the phone become? Also how long will it be before panel degradation becomes visible if the phone is used at full brightness?
shabby - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Here comes the battery engineer... do you know the chemistry of this exact battery? Do you know its maximum charge current? Maybe it's made up of 2 cells so you're really charging each cell at only 22.5w.nemi2 - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
Didn't matter if it is 20 cells. If it's packed into the same volume the total surface area of the electrodes will be about the same (actually less as you increase the battery count in the same volume as there is outer packaging hitting the available electrode volume). The higher the current (and heat) the more the reduction in battery lifetime charge cycles.shabby - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
Again until you know the specification of the actual cell what you're saying is too generic. Lipo cell's can charge at very high currents as can some 18650. Go look up some data sheets for these batteries and you'll see every single one varies, the more $$$ the better the charge/discharge current it can take.Silver5urfer - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
This BS double cell or single cell is nothing when you see the basic chemistry, the faster the charge rate which is C, and the higher the voltage and current. The battery depletes faster. Period.Any battery will lose it's total capacity while shoving fast chargers over and over rather than a 30-80% cycle. And on top this is an irreversible process.
I see my phone discharge fast when used with a fast charger QC2.0, vs the fast charge to 60% from 25% and then charge with USB 3.0 from 60-80%. I literally saw this with my personal use case.
Fast charging is only useful for very low % of the charge left to the medium. You don't require battery engineering bs, just a simple google will explain how things work.
s.yu - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
That's generally how fast chargers work, they charge fast until 50-60% and then taper down, the last 10% is usually pretty slow.One could argue if it could taper earlier and charge the last 40% at around 5W though.
NXTwoThou - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
The Mi10 Ultra, when charging at 80W was 43.8C. 21 minutes from 0 to 100%. If you haven't kept up on battery tech, an awful lot has changed in a short period of time. That's not to say they used 10 Ultra tech in the Mi 11, but you'd at least think they learned a thing or two. We'll have to wait for reviews.philehidiot - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
There is no doubt that using fast charging will be detrimental to the battery. The extent of the decline in longevity is the question and reviews will not tell you a thing about it. We will never know the full extent of the impact as no one is going to buy people a load of phones and do a study. The manufacturer will likely know as the battery / charging system will be validated. If theirs was anything special, you can guarantee that they would be bragging about it.Myself, I have a standard, slow USB wireless charger which runs at around 1A and use that overnight for routine charging. Next to it lies the cable for the fast charger. I use that for top ups in a hurry.
Given there is no doubt that these rapid chargers will increase the rate of degradation compared to a "slow" charger (the question is by how much), I much prefer the approach of Asus who alert you to the effects in the charge settings.
NXTwoThou - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
https://sparrowsnews.com/2020/08/12/is-xiaomi-mi-1... Here's a read up on what Xiaomi did with their previous phone. They claim 800 cycles and still 90% effective capacity(compared to 60% after 400 cycles on conventional). That's with the 120W charging.dudedud - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
Didn't OPPO claim the same thing but when Andrei asked for the methodology (to reproduce it and prove it) they didn't respond?I think there's a tweet of him about it.
kyle4beantown - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Night video will be a compelling feature as well -- assisted by Snapdragon 888 and AI imaging enhancement from BlinkAI: https://www.prweb.com/releases/blinkai_teams_with_...dudedud - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Wow, GPU clock speed went more than 40% up!There's no way it's sustainable
s.yu - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
It's 27% up, so on a new process it might be.dudedud - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Original table had 847Mhz as value.s.yu - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Very interesting...zamroni - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
I am using galaxy s9.Curved screen is bad usability and more expensive than regular flat screen.
quorm - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
Yeah, curved screens are just not useful and much harder for a case to protect without impacting usage. Plus the occasional pop-up with an x at the far edge of the screen that is tough to close (tapatalk, etc.)Anyway, between my desire for a flat screen, microsd, and 3.5 jack, I guess I won't be buying anymore "flagships".
Spunjji - Monday, January 4, 2021 - link
Same here, unfortunately. Curved screens are an embuggerance.On the plus side, I've had my OnePlus 6 long enough that even "mid-range" phones are starting to outclass it pretty significantly.
Maxpower27 - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Dear God, why did they give the corners of the display such a drastically different radius of curvature than the body of the phone? It looks awful.bji - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Not that I'm in the market for this phone, but I absolutely do not care in the slightest in any way shape or form that the radius of curvature of the corners of the display is slightly different than the radius of curvature of the body of the phone. I suspect that I am in the 99.9% majority on this one.s.yu - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
I think you're in the minority, because early notch screens had such corners, they were quickly fixed and these are now exceedingly rare.Maxpower27 - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
I don't care if I'm in the minority. Bad design is bad design.s.yu - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
No you're in the majority, bji is in the minority.bigboxes - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
I agree with you. I am not bothered in the least about that. How anal can some people get?shabby - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Yup it looks pretty bad, also that camera will give it a huge status bar in some apps.Spunjji - Monday, January 4, 2021 - link
Yeah, this trend really confuses me. They shrank bezels for more screen (yay), then put in the notch for even more screen but with less effective area (wut), and now we have no notch but the camera is even lower than it would be in a notch for *even less effective area* (wtf).Solo450 - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
The chinese languange version of Xiaomi's website already shows the Mi 11 and its specs. There it does indeed say that the GPU's frequency can "reach up to 840 MHz" (whatever that means), the main 108 MP camera has a "1/1.33″" sensor with "support for 4:1 1.6μm large pixels", the front camera is "20 MP", storage is "UFS 3.1" and it supports "Bluetooth 5.2".phoenix_rizzen - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
This whole paragraph is duplicated:"The new Mi 11 also features either 8GB or 12GB of the new LPDDR5 memory at its full 3200MHz speed (6400MT/s), and comes in either 128GB or 256GB storage variants, although we’re missing details on the specifications of the modules used here."
webdoctors - Monday, December 28, 2020 - link
Crazy specs phone, literally a supercomputer in your pocket!Maxpower27 - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
No, it's literally a smartphone in your pocket. A supercomputer is orders of magnitude more powerful than this.KimGitz - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
NO UNDER SCREEN FRONT FACING CAMERA WITH FACE ID!!!! LOLThat screen deserves better; AMOLED, QHD, 120Hz Refresh Rate, 480Hz Touch Input Refresh Rate, 1500 Nits of Peak Brightness and you put a camera hole punch....that is just criminal in a 2021 flagship.
nandnandnand - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
When you put it that way, it is kind of wild.Peskarik - Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - link
I bet it can call CCP automatically.Sharken03 - Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - link
From a tech standpoint this is great, if only the weight could be reduced to around 160g. Having a lighter phone is just so much more comfortable.JamesWoods - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
Sure if you don't mind a Chinese company that is stealing your data and infecting your network. By all means, buy this phone!stevielee - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
Apple is essentially a "Chinese Company" as well that is forced to 'comply' to the Chinese Governments demands for "data access" as well. Besides: why in the world would you even worry about any other foreign government or entities "access" to "your data" when all online electronic devices are mainlined into the NSA's and most of the domestic other 'intelligence' cosa nostra's data collection servers by default?Seriously! I would trust the "Chinese Government" getting ahold of any of my digital data a million times more than I would the hyper-voracious "5-Eyes" clowns that are hovering up almost everyone alive's (even the Chinese Government's) data for their own potentially nefarious current and future usage (control). Also, probably one of the largest foreign entities that are actually "infecting" anyone's phones and computers are the Israeli's (think...download alley..etc).
Fulljack - Thursday, December 31, 2020 - link
I don't know why, but the colorful back looks cheap, reminds me of iPhone 5c.Anyway, I hope Andrei could get his hands on this phone as soon as it's released!
CarryBeat - Friday, January 1, 2021 - link
Higher refresh rate, higher pixel count and slightly lower battery...tkSteveFOX - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
Looks like Samsung's 5nm is pants. Notebookcheck reported SD888 draws more power and produces more heat thus negating any benefits from X1 and A78, which btw offers just 7% IPC improvement over A77 at the same clock speeds. Perhaps this is why Huawei went with a high clock A77 rather than pushing for A78 or X1.Overall, the Kirin 9000 and Exynos 1080 might turn out to be better general use chips than SD888 and people shouldn't upgrade their SD865s this year. We had the same situation with SD845 and 821 back in the day where the upgrade over the previous gen was not worth it.
s.yu - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
The Kirin doesn't run on Samsung's process. It uses TSMC's process which is basically a node ahead.MrWool - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
When is the 256GB model coming out? 128GB with not expandable storage is a bit irritating.ElFenix - Saturday, January 2, 2021 - link
50 mm isn't telephoto.