Don't really see why one would buy these phones instead of Moto E, same SOC, same spec, higher res(960X540) and you get all the google services & playstore instead of having to use MS services and limited app selection. Moto E is undercuts Nokia X2 in price($129 vs $150).
Or just Moto G so you get better battery life than the low end Lumia's and so on. With Amazon having their fork, and BB getting ready to have Amazon app store on the Android Runtime Microsoft's market for these is just getting more squeezed, doesn't make any sense for developers to release apps through the Nokia Store and the market share aren't exactly those that would hack and mess around like the current Blackberry 10-users. Yet they need something like this. But customers can turn elsewhere.
Because Windows Phone apps are released through the Nokia Store... Well no. But a Moto G is more value than Lumia 520, 630, 635 as well as non forked and better performing than the X2. Moto E goes for pretty much the same money as X2 and L520. A low end phone is a low end phone.
Ah just reread your comment I misunderstood. Yes I agree that the X2 is going nowhere. Especially if it loses the Nokia name (powerful brand outside of US) to some form of MS branding.
Won't loose the branding in the phones lifetime (probably pretty short) as they can use it until 31 dec 2015 at least. Nobody really cares about Nokia here in Europe any more, the company as a phone maker is already dead and buried. It's not that much more popular than in the US. WP sealed the fate there. Everything essentially stopped and fell apart quickly with the new direction. Microsoft swept in and killed Symbian, MeeGo, Meltemi etc by forbidding development as part of the collaboration, killing any European competition as a result, hardware was replaced by whatever Qualcomm parts Microsoft supported and two app processor vendors shut their doors for the mobile market as a result. That also killed their camera work in practice. It's more that it is what Microsoft needs. They need to have a presence everywhere and have their services reach this market too. Other will have more success forking Android though. New Chinese vendors already sell more smartphones than MS does globally, by essentially selling forked Android in China. NA has players like Amazon and Blackberry as said (latter has a runtime on top of the OS rather than Android), reaching those as a developer is easier. We will see how long Hungary or whatever Microsoft Mobile plant that churns these out will keep at it. The finns won't exactly love this new Microsoft. Thousands of engineers and assembly workers lost their jobs, most got other good jobs but obviously the country lost an identity and the network part simply operates as NSN for the most part and the mapping business don't advertise as an Nokia company any more but rather pushes their fairly new Here brand and name. People have moved on. Microsoft got stuck with Series 40/Asha that should have been faced out :)
correction: they actually have the same MSRP. But the agrument still stands: if you don't have to pay more to get a better screen and google services, why get stuck with only MS apps?
Moto E is not even close to this phone, there's more in life than just praying for Google; Microsoft / Nokia wants a piece of the Pie, that doesn't make them better or worst than Google. Now Moto E don't even have a Led Flash for photos, doesn't have a front camera, and that is a huge fail, Skype on a phone is quite nice to have you know. Also this days Google is not develloping the OS very much, what they want to do is just sell their products, advertising!
Well it is available on the Lumia 630 so it is definitely on the radar. It would have been a bit of work to add to the OS so it will likely get used but not sure on what range of devices.
There's lots of information missing in this short overview, like the use of an MSM8210 (2xCortex A7, Adreno 302, 28nm LP) vs. MSM8225 (2xCortex A5, Adreno 203, 45nm), BT 4.0 instead of 3.0 and faster mobile network. The only thing I'm worried about is less standby time despite smaller structures and larger battery... Other than this nit the phone looks like something I might actually buy thanks to acceptable size and run time, Dual SIM, good connectivity and general features and of course Here Maps. Despite some of the comments I think not being tied in to Google Spyware is a feature, rather than a bug.
Nokia got a program for Android developers who want to port their current Android to the Nokia X Store, I think it was already 2000 apps there for some months ago when the first Nokia X was launced, and it have grove a lot since that time. I think maybe around 10.000 now.
Beside that you can Yandex Store that got around 100.000 apps. I think it was a Chinese app store you can add also. So the app selection are not so limited as many seems to think. And in many markets (where they will sell X2) Google services are not so known as in US and Europe.
So they probably will just use the Microsoft services "out of the box" so to speak. Nokia HERE maps and so on..
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sherlockwing - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
Don't really see why one would buy these phones instead of Moto E, same SOC, same spec, higher res(960X540) and you get all the google services & playstore instead of having to use MS services and limited app selection. Moto E is undercuts Nokia X2 in price($129 vs $150).Penti - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
Or just Moto G so you get better battery life than the low end Lumia's and so on. With Amazon having their fork, and BB getting ready to have Amazon app store on the Android Runtime Microsoft's market for these is just getting more squeezed, doesn't make any sense for developers to release apps through the Nokia Store and the market share aren't exactly those that would hack and mess around like the current Blackberry 10-users. Yet they need something like this. But customers can turn elsewhere.hodakaracer96 - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
This is forked android not windows phone...Penti - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
Because Windows Phone apps are released through the Nokia Store... Well no. But a Moto G is more value than Lumia 520, 630, 635 as well as non forked and better performing than the X2. Moto E goes for pretty much the same money as X2 and L520. A low end phone is a low end phone.hodakaracer96 - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
Ah just reread your comment I misunderstood. Yes I agree that the X2 is going nowhere. Especially if it loses the Nokia name (powerful brand outside of US) to some form of MS branding.Penti - Wednesday, June 25, 2014 - link
Won't loose the branding in the phones lifetime (probably pretty short) as they can use it until 31 dec 2015 at least. Nobody really cares about Nokia here in Europe any more, the company as a phone maker is already dead and buried. It's not that much more popular than in the US. WP sealed the fate there. Everything essentially stopped and fell apart quickly with the new direction. Microsoft swept in and killed Symbian, MeeGo, Meltemi etc by forbidding development as part of the collaboration, killing any European competition as a result, hardware was replaced by whatever Qualcomm parts Microsoft supported and two app processor vendors shut their doors for the mobile market as a result. That also killed their camera work in practice. It's more that it is what Microsoft needs. They need to have a presence everywhere and have their services reach this market too. Other will have more success forking Android though. New Chinese vendors already sell more smartphones than MS does globally, by essentially selling forked Android in China. NA has players like Amazon and Blackberry as said (latter has a runtime on top of the OS rather than Android), reaching those as a developer is easier. We will see how long Hungary or whatever Microsoft Mobile plant that churns these out will keep at it. The finns won't exactly love this new Microsoft. Thousands of engineers and assembly workers lost their jobs, most got other good jobs but obviously the country lost an identity and the network part simply operates as NSN for the most part and the mapping business don't advertise as an Nokia company any more but rather pushes their fairly new Here brand and name. People have moved on. Microsoft got stuck with Series 40/Asha that should have been faced out :)sherlockwing - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
correction: they actually have the same MSRP. But the agrument still stands: if you don't have to pay more to get a better screen and google services, why get stuck with only MS apps?Salt - Saturday, July 5, 2014 - link
Moto E is not even close to this phone, there's more in life than just praying for Google; Microsoft / Nokia wants a piece of the Pie, that doesn't make them better or worst than Google. Now Moto E don't even have a Led Flash for photos, doesn't have a front camera, and that is a huge fail, Skype on a phone is quite nice to have you know. Also this days Google is not develloping the OS very much, what they want to do is just sell their products, advertising!Penti - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
AOSP 4.3 Level 18 based according to docs. No update to 4.3 for the older devices.HardwareDufus - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
DSDA on this low end device.I hope we start seeing it in the higher end Lumia phones.
Brett Howse - Tuesday, June 24, 2014 - link
Well it is available on the Lumia 630 so it is definitely on the radar. It would have been a bit of work to add to the OS so it will likely get used but not sure on what range of devices.jmunjr - Wednesday, June 25, 2014 - link
Curious why there is nothing written about the dual sim feature of the phone. That's something I could use. A lot of people don't want two phones...Daniel Egger - Sunday, June 29, 2014 - link
There's lots of information missing in this short overview, like the use of an MSM8210 (2xCortex A7, Adreno 302, 28nm LP) vs. MSM8225 (2xCortex A5, Adreno 203, 45nm), BT 4.0 instead of 3.0 and faster mobile network. The only thing I'm worried about is less standby time despite smaller structures and larger battery... Other than this nit the phone looks like something I might actually buy thanks to acceptable size and run time, Dual SIM, good connectivity and general features and of course Here Maps. Despite some of the comments I think not being tied in to Google Spyware is a feature, rather than a bug.johnh3 - Monday, June 30, 2014 - link
Nokia got a program for Android developers who want to port their current Android to the Nokia X Store, I think it was already 2000 apps there for some months ago when the first Nokia X was launced, and it have grove a lot since that time. I think maybe around 10.000 now.http://developer.nokia.com/nokia-x
Beside that you can Yandex Store that got around 100.000 apps. I think it was a Chinese app store you can add also. So the app selection are not so limited as many seems to think.
And in many markets (where they will sell X2) Google services are not so known as in US and Europe.
So they probably will just use the Microsoft services "out of the box" so to speak.
Nokia HERE maps and so on..